tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post2674824148995535806..comments2019-10-07T12:14:00.226-07:00Comments on A little whine and cheese: She submitted. Then she snapped.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10373664646189970574noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-68030948929159183352015-06-04T08:04:50.383-07:002015-06-04T08:04:50.383-07:00this is not what the bible means by submission to ...this is not what the bible means by submission to one's husband. this is opposite of what Good intended for his children in their marriages. what these people teach and practice is a perversion of what God was. telling us. as for stoning diobedient kids.....(as a mom of almost 6 kids I reserve the right to comment on that.) just my view as a Christian ministers wifeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-53408545990180126572012-09-17T07:13:31.484-07:002012-09-17T07:13:31.484-07:00I LIVED THIS!! Not even so much because my husband...I LIVED THIS!! Not even so much because my husband insisted on it (he was not a Believer but boy did he use it to his advantage) but because this is what I was taught in church by the 'godly' women I looked up to. I devoured any and all teaching I could find on this subject because I SO BADLY wanted a marriage that was pleasing to God. I have read every book by every author mentioned and a few more. The few times that I did start to question this way of thinking I was quickly put in check by those "Titus 2 women" (they called themselves that) in my church. I am ashamed to say that I so believed this I even taught it to other women!! :( Those who know me can testify to the fact that I, too, SNAPPED. However, when I snapped I did not resort to physical violence toward my husband (oh that would have been fun after the way he treated me for all of those years) but in very passive-aggressive ways and in SELF-destructive behavior because I felt that since I had had ENOUGH and was leaving the marriage, God surely hated me.<br /><br />Thankfully, I am happily married today to a NON abusive, NON controlling man who doesn't believe any of this CRAP! :)MizzDayzeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16440095161395368808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-47814457280924804212012-09-17T07:12:58.129-07:002012-09-17T07:12:58.129-07:00I LIVED THIS!! Not even so much because my husband...I LIVED THIS!! Not even so much because my husband insisted on it (he was not a Believer but boy did he use it to his advantage) but because this is what I was taught in church by the 'godly' women I looked up to. I devoured any and all teaching I could find on this subject because I SO BADLY wanted a marriage that was pleasing to God. I have read every book by every author mentioned and a few more. The few times that I did start to question this way of thinking I was quickly put in check by those "Titus 2 women" (they called themselves that) in my church. I am ashamed to say that I so believed this I even taught it to other women!! :( Those who know me can testify to the fact that I, too, SNAPPED. However, when I snapped I did not resort to physical violence toward my husband (oh that would have been fun after the way he treated me for all of those years) but in very passive-aggressive ways and in SELF-destructive behavior because I felt that since I had had ENOUGH and was leaving the marriage, God surely hated me.<br /><br />Thankfully, I am happily married today to a NON abusive, NON controlling man who doesn't believe any of this CRAP! :)MizzDayzeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16440095161395368808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-30605155776145773392012-09-01T16:58:22.958-07:002012-09-01T16:58:22.958-07:00DON, you are so correct, and the Pearls are IDIOTS...DON, you are so correct, and the Pearls are IDIOTS, and this is another reason I am glad I still have my beliefs, but have left the "church system". Thanks!review20122012https://www.blogger.com/profile/16548095844752428546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-36231041162771895112012-09-01T06:43:40.534-07:002012-09-01T06:43:40.534-07:00There are verses about divorce being allowed for a...There are verses about divorce being allowed for abuse, but they need to be read inside the cultural context of when they were written. Jews know about them, why do many Christians not know about them, including some supposed teachers at Saddleback! Sheesh<br /><br />Exo 21:10 If he takes another woman for himself, he may not withhold from the first her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. <br />Exo 21:11 If he does not do these three things for her, she may go out without paying anything at all. <br /><br />See David Instone-Brewer's books on divorce if you want the details on how to read these verses in cultural context.Donald Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07904992652259586383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-362785253173070412012-08-31T05:38:23.525-07:002012-08-31T05:38:23.525-07:00O. M. G! This really hit home with me because so ...O. M. G! This really hit home with me because so many people tried to cram all that crap down my throat...and they are still doing it. The "Me Obey Him", was given to me several years ago by a friend because it was felt that I wasn't submissive enough. They tried to give me the "Help Meet" book but I rejected it. The Pearls are horrifying. Period. I have found that the more you subject yourself, or submit to your husband, the more he takes advantage of you. They lose respect for you and start getting this entitlement type of thinking. It gets to the point that nothing you do is good enough. I have HAD it with the submission stuff. I believe a good marriage begins with loving and respecting ONE ANOTHER. God loves us and does not want our bodies and souls to be mistreated. I could go on and on...because of what I have had to go through because of well-meaning Christians. I am losing respect for them daily as I see them lay heavy burdens on spouses and children. Christ meant for us to be FREE. When he set us free, we were forgiven, freed from the yoke of sin..and I never want to go back to that burden again. Allowing myself to be abused by them is sin. I want to be the PERSON that he meant me to be, not a dog waiting on the front steps until the master comes home. Susan Miller Bradburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12177816968038091521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-75149927695419383172012-08-30T09:51:53.292-07:002012-08-30T09:51:53.292-07:00You're brave for stepping into the minds and l...You're brave for stepping into the minds and literature of crazy people! I try to avoid it as much as possible. It makes me too angry to comment either respectfully or rationally. Thank goodness for YOU!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09075803239554384727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-85031210142240139752012-08-29T17:20:43.881-07:002012-08-29T17:20:43.881-07:00Any man who insists his wife submit to him isn'...Any man who insists his wife submit to him isn't worthy of being submitted to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7739827576983676890.post-20021006401274487492012-08-29T16:28:51.857-07:002012-08-29T16:28:51.857-07:00OMG. As a happily married woman, a partner and a C...OMG. As a happily married woman, a partner and a Christian, I am appalled. I don't read the rhightwhinging stuff. Go you! God does not want cringing, codependency, acceptance of abuse, self-denigration or any of the rest of that crap. I lost it with the 'do you think your body is special?' horror: YES, it is special, YES it has special needs, as they all do. YES it deserves sexual tenderness, attention, and pleasure.CyranoRoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11781752118037845401noreply@blogger.com